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  Half hearted JWs compared to past generations

  by JohnR1975 in

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  2. beliefs

  is it just me or has there been a massive change in jws of late?.

  when i grew up in the cult they had a real sense of urgency and would do an hour minimum, these days it’s not even ten mins before coffee break.. same goes for everything else, it’s half hearted .

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  joey jojo

  The average ex-jw poster here would do a better job door to door than the current crop of JW's I've met
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  Rumour 144,000 literal number teaching to be abandoned at Annual Meeting

  by slimboyfat in

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  2. beliefs

  say it ain’t so!

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  in one sense it’s a no brainer because the figures just don’t add up any more.. in another (negative) sense it’s a no brainer because it’s been fundamental to jws since year dot and might undermine the whole thing?

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  joey jojo

  I agree with comments about not reporting the number anymore. That seems like a logical way to handle it.

  It leaves the problem about whether the 144000 has been filled to the imagination, without the GB having to continually quantify anything going forward.

  Over time, it will become an insignificant detail - if it isn't already, only remembered by a few oldies whose opinions don't count anymore.
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  Rumour 144,000 literal number teaching to be abandoned at Annual Meeting

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  say it ain’t so!

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  in one sense it’s a no brainer because the figures just don’t add up any more.. in another (negative) sense it’s a no brainer because it’s been fundamental to jws since year dot and might undermine the whole thing?

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  joey jojo

  The GB changes a beloved, 'factual', 'bible-based', core doctrine and JW's will lap it all up.

  They are like magicians performing a magic trick and showing the audience how they did it and yet, the average JW is still fooled.
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  Witnesses after Covid shut down are increasing their calls around my neighborhood

  by wozza in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi all , i just had another call by a an elderly jw ,let's call him ian.. only about 3 months ago i had a young jw call and trying to talk to him i had to tone it down a bit because he did'nt seem so theocratically bright as he only offered a tract and not much else , and i've had others call since covid.. so it seems around here they are making regular calls but not like back in the day when i used to auxillary pioneer where we would go over this turf every 1 to 3 weeks in the 80's.. but back to my caller ian ,on his own , but out with a group of jw's he was quick to get around the pleasantries and and so i interrupted him tactfully to slow him down.

  started with a bit of my history easing into the fact that i had my first contact with jw's with my soon to be mother-in -law who was an invalided jw ,we had many good talks about her beliefs in the early 70's.. at this point he jumps in and wants to know if i would want a study again because i told him that i once did a study with jw's back.

  i carefully steered him into telling me about those days ,what was he was doing back then.

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  joey jojo

  Yep, they love it when it's on their terms but can't handle a normal, honest conversation.
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  TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS "Handling Cases of Drug Abuse" September 1, 2018

  by Not_Culty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://jwglossary.blogspot.com/2018/09/to-all-bodies-of-elders-handling-cases.html.

  to all bodies of elders "handling cases of drug abuse".

  september 1, 2018. to all bodies of elders re: handling cases of drug abusedear brothers: as noted below, the procedure for handling the misuse of marijuana and the abuse of medi- cal, illicit, or addictive drugs has been adjusted to harmonize with the procedure for handling the misuse of tobacco.

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  Addictive drug used under medical supervision is ok if it's an opioid, but bad, or questionable if it is cannabis?

  This is simply the org reflecting the bad reputation cannabis has in the community and has nothing to do with direction from god, or medically supported research.

  Like everything else, they are making it all up as they go.
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  Are you glad you got the Covid Vaccine? Did it help?

  by liam in

  1. social
  2. current

  i didn’t get the covid vaccine, but i admit, i was scared as shit i made the wrong decision because there was so much confusion out there.

  practically all my family and most of my friends took the vaccine because everyone was depending on those in charge to speak the truth.

  now a lot of them are sick, and they can't figure out why.

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  Raimundo, it's always refreshing to read posts like yours that cite biased information from a website that is ran anonymously. I think everyone should base their families health decisions on trustworthy sources like Slay News and just ignore all other medical advice if it doesn't fit their world view.

  'Feelings before facts' should be the new motto.

  Oh wait, the trans community has already taken that one, you will have to think of something better.
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  U turn in vac mandate

  by ElderBerry in

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  so now they don’t want defib machines in khalls because it shines a light on the increasing blood clots from the shots that they said were safe.

  https://youtu.be/yvvyiuqv3nm.

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  joey jojo

  ElderBerry
  So now they don’t want defib machines in KHalls because it shines a light on the increasing blood clots from the shots that they said were safe

  Based on this video and the information in the notice from the WT, how do you arrive at the conclusion that this has anything at all to do with the vaccines??? This is clearly a way to eliminate any liability if someone uses this and something goes wrong, like device failures, or someone recklessly using it, regardless of their intent.

  With respect, its comments like this that makes people like me think anti-vaxxers are idiots. The trouble is, others will read your comment and believe it.

  Heres some reading material:

  https://www.scottvicknair.com/blog/automated-external-defibrillator-aed-liability/
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  Questions about demons, Jehovah’s Witnesses in Charlotte murder trial. The Charlotte (North Carolina) Observer.

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  8/20/24 "the charlotte (nc) observer".

  questions about demons, jehovah’s witnesses in charlotte murder trial.

  what do you think about demonic possessions?

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  joey jojo

  A lot of crazy stuff on the news is related to mental illness. Schizophrenia is a particularly sad condition.
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  Are you glad you got the Covid Vaccine? Did it help?

  by liam in

  1. social
  2. current

  i didn’t get the covid vaccine, but i admit, i was scared as shit i made the wrong decision because there was so much confusion out there.

  practically all my family and most of my friends took the vaccine because everyone was depending on those in charge to speak the truth.

  now a lot of them are sick, and they can't figure out why.

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  joey jojo

  
  MeanMrMustard
  Emergencies can't bypass rights.

  The effects of the all the added extras surrounding the pandemic was worse than the pandemic. Government/ police over-reach, supply chain interruptions, rampant inflation, businesses losses and mental health issues to name a few.
  
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  Are you glad you got the Covid Vaccine? Did it help?

  by liam in

  1. social
  2. current

  i didn’t get the covid vaccine, but i admit, i was scared as shit i made the wrong decision because there was so much confusion out there.

  practically all my family and most of my friends took the vaccine because everyone was depending on those in charge to speak the truth.

  now a lot of them are sick, and they can't figure out why.

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  joey jojo

  LV101
  On Substack interesting article by Dr. Mike Yeadon (X-Pfizer) under the Fraud Prevention Hotline: 'Dr. Mike Yeadon against the "Covid" cartel. And: the TONED syndrome (The treatment of a non-existent disease syndrome). Article also posted on his Telegram channel.

  I cant find any information that Mike Yeadon has any expertise with vaccines. Its like saying:
  

  'I worked at pfizer'

  'Oh really-what did you do?"

  "Admin, but Im an expert at vaccines."

  In October, Yeadon wrote a column for the United Kingdom’s Daily Mail newspaper that also appeared on MailOnline, one of the world’s most-visited news websites. It declared that deaths caused by COVID-19, which then totaled about 45,000 in Britain, will soon “fizzle out” and Britons “should immediately be allowed to resume normal life.” Since then, the disease has killed about another 80,000 people in the UK.

  https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/health-coronavirus-vaccines-skeptic/

  Also, there is no mention of the vaccines in regard to this poor young girl, except social media sub-groups that are trying to exploit it without evidence. The only info I could find is that she was vaccinated in 2021 - that was 3.5 years ago!

  https://www.kake.com/news/health/kentucky-4th-grader-dies-after-collapsing-at-recess-on-first-day-of-school-family-says/article_a78bdeaa-5b38-11ef-afe9-8bd909a610ba.html
  

  Its good to be sceptical but it has to be balanced with informed data.